But in the 1930s so were the rest of the sportswriters. Interesting that the name Rice comes up in two contexts Edmund Rice, founder of the Christian Brothers, and Grantland Rice the sportswriter. googletag.pubads().disableInitialLoad(); However the debate continues because the beautiful graphic styled verse that I found in my family home Hell write not that you won or lost var source = getCookieWithoutJQuery("source"); B. Downie. Yes the poem lives on. Well thank you Bettye. page: {requestId: "PTPHS3MESDKWDQ4ZK9G7", meaningful: "interactive"} } Meanwhile, does anyone know, for sure, who wrote these words? Greetings Cooleen. I was born in England at the beginning of WWII..my grandfather quoted the poem by J.B. Downie when I was just a small girl. The winning is all up to you This is really the death of the neo-Confederacy, which was a racist, reactionary movement to invest the cataclysm of the war, from the Southern perspective, with some meaning as white supremacy was becoming ever more entrenched, Meacham said. But these words mashed into a typewriter and hurriedly telegrammed to the office constitute sports-scribe artistry: Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. When Bill woke up his scalp hung loose and knots adorned his head. Can you confirm? I am not sure how we can clarify who wrote this beautiful verse and/or poem. The piece hung first in my grandmothers If you get a moment Wendy perhaps you might send / attach a photo or copy of your version. Let young and old read Read more Not That You Won or Lost but I often wondered about the line. Thanks again. [9] He is best known for being the successor to Walter Camp in the selection of College Football All-America Teams beginning in 1925, and for being the writer who dubbed the great backfield of the 1924 Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team the "Four Horsemen" of Notre Dame. Poems by Thayer, Rice and Walt Mason. BUT HOW YOU PLAYED THE GAME. Where he would buck to glory in the swirl of Lifes big game. Christmas 1927 With the Grantland Rice name in this thread, I thought I would throw this curveball (hahahahaha )Lee Mero married Kathryn Rice in 1920!!!! Just a FYI. Quotation #35596 from Classic Quotes: For when the One Great Scorer comes. setDisplayBids: function() {}, I have an original of the poem given to me by my Mother in 1949 that I cherish. So yeah, Rice knew about the most famous pregame speech in football history before it happened. So were the athletes and the actors and the fans who came to cheer them. ~ Paul. peggydudley@bellsouth.net, Peggy, many thanks for this. 31 likes All Members Who Liked This Quote Scott 463 books view quotes Like his mentor, Russell was a Vanderbilt baseball player and graduate. This quote was on a huge poster on the wall of the mess building. Its black and gold. Print it off. node.parentNode.insertBefore(gads, node); Wow Steve this is truly intriguing. The gym and the elementary school were demolished years ago. Give Vanderbilt University a nod, along with Chattanooga and the words of a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, for clarity on the intensified assault on Confederate glorification. As such, it can be served by no apologies or defenses, Fountain wrote, and deserves damnation less than it deserves understanding.. Rice's all-time All-America backfield was Jim Thorpe, Red Grange, Ken Strong, and Ernie Nevers. So were the policemen and the shopkeepers and the farmers and the factory owners. The plaque belonged to my wifes grandfather, Orson Ryan, whose son Kent played football for the Lions we believe the plaque was obtained about 1908. He won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for his biography American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House, wrote a celebrated biography of Thomas Jefferson and was chosen by the Bush family to write George H.W. In 1907, Rice saw what he would call the greatest thrill he ever witnessed in his years of watching sports during the SewaneeVanderbilt football game: the catch by Vanderbilt center Stein Stone, on a double-pass play then thrown near the end zone by Bob Blake to set up the touchdown run by Honus Craig that beat Sewanee at the very end for the SIAA championship. He sounded like a truly great man. In 1908, legendary sports journalist Grantland Rice wrote, "It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game." His poem compared sports to lifeenjoy the competition, try your best, and focus more on effort than the outcome. And thats where Grantland Rice, in todays terms, gets complicated. Thank you again for your very thoughtful message. These are only aliases. It also has some inpirational writing on the back. Meanwhile the Independent newspaper (11 October 2007) endorsed this spirit of sportsmanship (and your father in particular): It is gold leaf with a picture of two dueling horses with men in coats of armor. How bizarre is that??? His brothers were much older than himI suppose the poem was printed sometime in the time between 1910 and 1925. Many thanks, Paul. This exact version was framed and hung on the wall in my parents bedroom. TO WIN OR LOOSE , AND BE THE SAME. Many thanks for your clarification. He writes not that you won or lost Their shared legacy includes the Russell-Rice TRA scholarship for Vanderbilt students interested in sportswriting, awarded since 1956 to aspiring writers such as Roy Blount Jr., Skip Bayless, Lee Jenkins and Dan Wolken. This is intriguing. But through the night there shines the light, for(var i=0; i 1953 Worcester Tornado Victims,
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