How Far Should I Hit My Hybrids? A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. [/quote] Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) Can i play a pro v1, or a harder ball I wont more distance KIND regards Rene Claeys Ren. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. Spin: 3811. What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? Bump up your confidence around the greens. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? I think you wish you hit it further. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. It's good for some laughs. I don't play professional golf. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. [quote name='J.W.' [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. [/quote] Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. I have played golf for 22 years. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). Im your AMA although Im trending down. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. A Step by Step Guide, Acceleration Graph of Hips, Chest, Arms, and Clubhead in a Pro Golf Swing. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. [/quote] You can post now and register later. Physics First. Either way I don't care. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. I once read that if all golfers had to count every stroke they took, and appropriate penalty shots, only 10 percent could legitimately break a 100. 3. The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. #TeamTrackMan [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. And that was 12 years ago. The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. Have a look at his driver and 6 In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. That smash factor surprises me a bit. Does Trackman update this data each year? Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. Their drives seem to always go miles and I dont know about you but Im always checking myself to think whether I indeed heard the commentator correctly that they are actually hitting that high an iron for that 200+ yard approach shot. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. <> And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. 5 0 obj Short hitter compared to the average WRXer In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. You cannot paste images directly. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. [/quote] I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). Well, they say that If you practice more and more youll get better and better. Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. Pasted as rich text. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. Distance to Apex 195.9 One suggestion could be to setup course length based on club speed and optimal driver efficiency. Your email address will not be published. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. Distance to Apex 195.9 However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. [/quote] [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] Club Head Speed 119.55 This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Join the Thomas family to help fund important programming for children in need, junior golf and military families. Ball Speed 176.38 The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. My longest drive was 270. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. Paste as plain text instead, It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. I feel like a lot of AMs sacrifice strike for the extra 1-2 mph which ultimately leads to less distance. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. I recently had my swing analyzed and would like to share the results so that maybe someone could explain this in simpler terms. Does that make sense? While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. Not at all. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. I then picked up the lob wedge, historically as a two wedge player I need high versatility with this club as it is 6 degrees more lofted than my 52. [/quote] I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. It's not the length that makes a pro. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Ha, okay. This gap is the highest one Titleist advise in custom fitting, they like to see only 4 degrees between clubs which unfortunately means you are buying 3 wedges and paying an additional 169. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. a lower loft) or a touch weaker (i.e. SM5 53, 59 Im a baseball coach who plays golf when I can. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. The AMA has a reported handicap of 14 or 15. The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. You will probably pick up that I gravitate towards the technical aspects of most things I do. I originally tried the 12 bounce in the 52 degree but I could feel the club stuttering in the turf at impact. Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. Apex Height 112' 11" Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. [/quote] If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high any 7 iron data ? RJ, What was the actual value of swing speed group 115 mph+, since it shows 0%. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, 5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus Do you suppose my distance is bs? I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. endobj Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. So next time the announcer says that someone is hitting a 5 iron from 223, keep in mind that its mostly conditions, and note where the ball actually carries. Not at all. The title would be just as useful as well. This data further confirms the need for most golfers to aim towards the center of the green on all approach shots. [/quote] 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. Other top articles related to this topic: Graeme Hay is the owner of GolfingFocus.com. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. Going back to Torrey Pines South, that is somewhere between the Green and White tees. This is the site where we share everything we've learned. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. Just would be interesting to see. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. Dont Waste Your Money, Should Your Wedges Match Your Irons? [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. [/quote] Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. Instead, its mostly situational. It has to do with my ability. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the Top 50 Player Guide. Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs.
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