Who killed three eight year old boys in West Memphis? : r - reddit and apparently to Pam too, iirc discovering this is what lead to her statement that she believes he was involved in the murder of her son. The men most likely entered the Blue Beacon Woods from the field that was located to the east of the woods. In fact, the very first place that he and Pam looked before Pam went to work was Michaels house. Sometime around 2pm the day of the 6th, Stevie, Michael and Chris were found murdered in a drainage ditch filled with water in the Blue Beacon Woods. This means that they were not free to sit at a computer all day and wade through reams and reams of public evidence to know all the details of the case. Then, I believe that Terry began to attack Stevies face by biting him and even possibly striking his face with the corner of the board. Why would either of these men lie about who they talked to that night unless they both were lying and couldnt get their stories straight? Apparently, he had told family members that his mother found a pair of his bloody shoes and when he talked about the murders at work, he lead people to believe he somehow knew something or was in someway involved. And the reason he was never questioned was because being a dude who was into dick in Arkansas in the 90s wasn't okayespecially among cops. Also, although this may seem insignificant, Anthony Hollingsworth, LGs cousin, made a statement in May of 1993 that LG acts like he is gay. I learned from Roy Taylor that Mr. Hobbs was bisexual. When Aaron Hutchinson spoke about the clubhouse, he referenced the boards numerous times. VICKIE: THE DEAD END ON MCAULEYRIDGE: ON MCAULEY BYVICKIE: BY THE APARTMENTSRIDGE: OKAY, ALRIGHT. We do not know whose pants were the ones inside out for sure and whose pair of pants was not, but we do know that Michaels shirt was the only one not inside out and none of the buttons on his shirt were ripped off. Seeing animal prints in the woods at that time, or tire tracks in the field would not have been meaningful to them at all at that point. Additionally, they would have focused on someone who lived in West Memphis and knew the Blue Beacon Woods well. DNA consistent with Terry Hobbs, stepfather of victim Stevie Branch, was. 9pm by his aunt, and lastly, remember the very obvious lie Narlene made, and even convinced her two children to make,on the standabout seeing Damien and Domini on the service road.. What that may mean is that the last known place that LG was seen was Lakeshore Trailerpark. Another indicator that points to Terrys guilt and the truth in the alleged Buddy/LG statements, lies with what was discovered on Michael Moores body. So although at least some experts said the boys were not punched, I dont believe thats true at all. Vicky Edwards, a writer and teacher, has announced the release of her first book, "Boxful of Nightmares, Terry Hobbs' Personal Memoirs on the West Memphis Three Murders." Even Aarons mother, Vicki, supported these statements in her first interview with police. When he found out his friends were missing, he immediately told his mom that they had to go the clubhouse in the woods. Even if he maybe didn't intend to kill him, I'm sure he started to beat him and his rage just got the best of him and there was no turning back. She said some very odd things about TH: "he gets a look that's plum(sp?) But there also had to be an injury there to begin with. Peretti believed that and the Echols defense team, although claiming that Chris must have drowned, all admitted that Chris died while he was being tied up. They then went and dumped the boys bicycles into the bayou, cleaned up the area and left by dark. You may be the judge of the that. He was most likely placed near the tree becase one of the perpetrators used the tree as support in order to enter the water. The act of tying up three unconscious boys who were near death at this point, was clearly an unnecessary act. Misskelly, who has a low IQ, reportedly gave detectives a false confession which helped a jury convict the three of murder. I think its open to interpretation. This is where you ask yourself why Jacoby would lie to protect Hobbs and also why he would openly admit he lied in 2013. WHAT DID IT SMELL LIKE DID IT STINK?AARON: YEAH (YES) IT STUNKRIDGE: WHAT IT SMELL LIKE?AARON: IT SMELLED LIKE, IT SMELLED LIKE A CIGARETTE JUST GETTING LILT BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT KINDAaron tells police why he believes his friends were killed: RIDGE: TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK HAPPENED?AARON: THEY UM, THEY WENT DOWN TO WATCH THOSE MEN AND. The way the three boys were tied, wrist to ankle, as opposed to wrist to wrist, ankle to ankle, is one of the most unique aspects to this case. They were so sure that the murders were part of a satanic ritual done by teenagers, and were so desperate to make sure that Aarons answers revealed that, that eventually Aarons statements began to get more and more fantastical and implausible. It is my opinion that the answers to many of the questions of what happened that night, will be answered here. Back to the timeline. Terry admitted himself that he whipped Stevie and by Amandas own account, Terry was a violent man who left welts and bruises on her when he hit her. Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of another one of the murdered boys. What purpose would there be to strip the boys naked? RIDGE: IT IS OKAY, YOUVE BEEN DOWN THERE BEFORE? As CrimeOnline previously reported, Damien Echols, along with friends Jason Baldwin and Jesse Misskelly, were convicted of murder in 1994, in connection with the murders of Chris Byers, Michael Moore, and Steven. The use of hobbling helps to quickly control the animal as well as making transportation of the animal more easy. Stevies bite mark on the left and known bite marks on the right. Aaron, Michael and Chris had always gone without Stevie and the one time Stevie did go, the men did not show up. golden age crime fiction conventions . I allege that Terry dropped LG off at 8:45 at the Laundromat/Flash Market on Ingram and proceeded to create an alibi for himself. It makes absolutely no sense that she would have brought five people along with her at almost 10pm at night to pick someone up. AND HE SAID BECAUSE WE WERE SCARED, AND THEY WERE SCARED I GUESS OF GETTING CAUGHT THEN AND AH HE SAID MICHAEL KEPT TELLING ME THAT IT WAS AN INDIAN THING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO AND CHRIS SAID NO THEIR GETTING READY TO HAVE SEX. Its my personal opinion that the evidence presented here should put all debates to rest because both sides have at least some truth in their corner. I've no doubt he killed Stevie to "get even" with Pam. Terry Hobbs | West Memphis 3 murders Wiki | Fandom Those partially digested vegetables not only prove the long held belief that the boys died around 7pm, shortly after being seen, but that Stevie most likely ate those vegetables right near 5:00 pm. Tell me why Terry Hobbs DIDN'T do it - WM3 : r/UnresolvedMysteries - reddit After Terrys attack on Chris groin, was when, allegedly, David hit Chris till Buddy believed he was dead. 2 Q. In West Memphis, Hobbs worked as an ice cream delivery man and Hicks worked at a restaurant. Damien Wayne Echols: DNA testing contradicted false confession However, I dont think it takes an expert to see that the mark above Stevies eye appears to truly be a bite mark. WAS IT LIKE EVERY DAY OR ONCE WEEK OR JUST FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES YOU SAW IT HAPPEN?AARON: IT WAS EVERY DAY BUT, IT WAS EVERY TIME, BUT IT EVERY TIME BUT UM, THE FRIDAY. The purpose, according to FBI profiler, John Douglas, was to humiliate, demean and control. West Memphis Police Officer, Bryn Ridge found Michael Moore first, just south of the crooked tree that juts out from the ground in the photo on the far left. I believe as David dragged Chris with him back to the others, he picked up one of the boards that lay in the open nearby. Because she was lying and both she and LG knew it. Apparently, LG walked in and asked for his cousin Dominis telephone number. Aaron Hutchinson also stated that the clubhouse consisted of some old boards: AARON: IN ROBIN HOOD UH, THE PLACE WHERE THE BOARDS ARERIDGE: WAS IT THERE WHERE YOUR CLUB IS OR WAS IT SOME WHERE ELSE IN THOSE WOODS?AARON: IT WAS RIGHT BESIDE OUR UM, TREE HOUSE, And in 2011, pleadings for further DNA testing of the boards that were found next to the clubhouse:http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/de_dnamotion3_30_11.pdf. His father, Joe Dean Hobbs, was a minister at the Apostolic Pentecost Church. The day after the boys went missing before they were even found, Michael Moore's parents asked Aaron's mother, Vickie Hutchinson, if Aaron could be removed from school to help find the boys. According to Terrys ex wife, Terry Hobbs first wife had claimed in their divorce papers that he molested their son. Those who didnt know the case that well simply believed that Chris entire penis and scrotum had been cut off with a knife. Also, the sister who caught Hobbs washing laundry in the middle of the fucking night! . Shortly after arriving home, Terry was out in his driveway with Amanda, saw the boys outside Jamie Ballards home and called them to come to the house. ~It appears the boys *were* punched.. at least a little bit. Mark took Chris home, spanked him for being in the middle of the street and not waiting at home, told him to clean the carport and left him there cleaning at 5:30. We know this because it takes 45 minutes to two hours to digest vegetables and we also know that the experts believe that the boys were murdered sometime around 7:00 pm. Here is a timeline of how events may have unfolded that day. The West Memphis Three are Damien Echols, Jessie Miskelley, and Jason Baldwin. D, J, and J's DNA was not. Who would have fed Stevie vegetables if not his own parents? Hobbs, with the help of an author, put all that journaling into a book about the 1993 murders of his stepson Stevie Branch, and Branch's friends Michael Moore and Chris Byers. I think you're on to something here. 'West Memphis Three' case: John Byers, suspect and stepfather - MEAWW WE ALWAYS GOT A PLACE TO HIDE BEFORE THEY CAN GET THERE, AARON: WE HIDE ONE TIME WE HIDE BEHIND UM A TREE. VICKIE: UM, JUST SOME BOARDS, LOOKED LIKE SOME ONE HAD LIKE MADE A DEER STAND, A LONG TIME AGO OR SOMETHING AND JUST SOME BOARDS AND THEY KINDA HAD YOU KNOW LIKE A FORT. Jamie and her sister believe that this occurred at 6:30, while their mother believes that the boys were playing in her backyard somewhere between 5:30-6:30pm. I think its highly probable that Terry repeatedly bit Stevie on his face, mostly on his left side. Three boys were seen riding their bikes around the neighborhood of West Memphis, last seen heading to the Robin Hood Hill woods at 6:30. Almost immediately after Terry would have hit Michael, I believe that is when David would have caught Chris. The question, however, is why wasChrisdegloved and not the other children? Narlene interjected herself all over this case. Then for a time, I thought it was JMB. THAT THE FIVE MAN MAY HAVE CAUGHT THEM? He continued to say that it was known in the drug world that Terry was gay or bisexual and that he preferred sex with young boys. Is there any possible reason why they wouldnt have stopped? There are so many rumors, lies and blatant ignorance surrounding this case. In this letter, a man named Bennie Guy revealed that in 1994, two teens, Buddy Lucas and LG Hollingsworth had confessed to him that they had been involved in the murders with two other men, Terry Hobbs, stepfather to one of the murdered boys and David Jacoby, friend of Terry Hobbs. In the second statement, Narlene describes to police a conversation she had with LG outside of the police station right before a police interview. In fact, in 2012 the animal hair found on the boys bodies was tested; revealing that the animal hair was from both canines and felines. If Terry truly had bitten and stabbed Chris scrotum, it would explain perfectly the questions around Chris death. Then, I believe the men left around 5:45 and headed out of West Memphis towards Lakeshore trailerpark where Terrys alleged drug dealer lived. New Eyewitnesses: Three Boys Last Seen Alive with Terry Hobbs Crime scene footage of the pile of boards. Even worse, Terry claims that he had arrived at Jacobys already searching for the boys, while David claimed that Terry arrived with the boys behind him in the street and apparently told David that he was allowing them to play until dark. If a weapon had been used to create all the injuries then there would have been major cuts and lacerations with the contusions just like there was on the boys heads. My theory is that when Stevie saw Terry there, he was scared, very scared. RIDGE: ALRIGHT, WHEN YOU SAW THESE FIVE OUT THERE IN THE WOODS AND THEY WERE DOING THESE THINGS THAT WERE BAD OKAY WAS THIS AT DAYTIME OR WAS IT NIGHTTIME? One mystery that has plagued people who have followed the case, is why it appeared that Stevie and Chris were tortured while Michael was not. thanks for the recommendation!! Whats equally puzzling is the fact that almost nothing about the two mens alibis is the same, yet they both claim to have been with each other. According to many experts, this is a huge indicator that the perpetrator(s) knew the victims. Mother Of Murdered West Memphis 8-Year-Old Speaks Out About New In the first one, she is relaying to police a conversation she had with her sister in law about LG and his family and the way they all were behaving a few days after the murder. However, since LG was wearing a tie that day and the alleged confessions state the teens wrestled, its my belief that LGs shirt and tie had been removed for the entire murder, which meant that it was clean. It puts all questions to rest. I dont know. A couple of months later, French contacted the police and her landlord after Hobbs reportedly came into her home and grabbed her breast. One of the mysteries of this crime is the location of the bodies in the drainage ditch. From there, the police focused on finding clothes, speaking with the families, taping off the area, etc and possibly some small searching of the area. A bitemark on Stevies face would lend credibility to the statement that another bite occurred on Chris genital area. She hasnt seen him or Michael by this point. He will take it to his grave but some people in the town know and I'm not sure why he isn't and wasn't under more suspicion. They had been stripped naked, hogtied and beaten. They are also one of very few people,who hadfamily memberswho suspected that they were involved and actually contacted police as a result of those suspicions. No. RIDGE: WHEN I SAY HAVING SEX IS THAT WHAT YOUR DESCRIBING? After the murders occurred, rumors circulated that Buddy may have been involved. Steven Branch had lacerations on his penis which were probably self-inflicted indicating a sexualized child, usually associated with sexual abuse. Not only did they not ever contact the Echols defense team in search of a deal for their help, Buddy Guy didnt send his letter to the prosecutor till the WM3 were out of prison. One of them even went up and knocked on the door and spoke to Michaels sister, Dawn. Its extremely rare that a murder would take place directly after sexual activity that was unrelated to the victim, but if it did happen, it wouldnt be a stretch to assume that it couldcontribute to a perpetrators desire to strip the victim naked, tie them them up in a sexual and demeaning manor and then attack their genitals. Thats a time bomb. subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. He did not tell me who he was calling, and he did not tell me that Stevie was missing, Pamela previously told investigators. In truth, this theory would finally explain and clarify, really,why the boys had animal hair on them if they were pulled from the water. Misskelly later recanted and claimed he was tired, ready to go home, and said what the detectives wanted him to say. In both Billy and Bennies statements, i.e. (1) Strangely, Buddy first says that he has a man who will testify that he worked with Buddy all that day and then later on in the conversation, Buddy claims that his boss will testify that he was at work on the 5th. And since she couldnt have known this from a sighting, because the sighting never happened, then it must be from some other source. http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/de_dnamotion3_30_11.pdf. There is no way that if this really occurred, Terry would have allowed those boys go home to tell their parents that, not only was Terry Hobbs in the woods having sex with men and teenagers, but he punched his stepsons friend in the head for catching him. It also would have allowed Terry to take things to the next level; if he began with seemingly innocent orders he could have continued things that way, escalating events with each command. He was also a minister in the Apostolic Pentecost Church, a fundamentalist group. I'm digging into this right now. And for two, David claims to have seen the three boys in front of his house at 5:30 when he opened the door to let Terry and Amanda inside. I cant be sure, but its possible that the interviewer in this deposition meant Roy not Ray. Friday, January 20th 2012. VICKIE: IT WAS COPSRIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? And if Aaron's story is true, Terry Hobbs may have been involved in homosexual activities and smoking something in the woods with other men and the boys were possibly caught watching them as they'd done multiple times. In my opinion, it shows that this theory is actually exactly what happened. It breaks my heart and I thought about it for 3 weeks straight after I got into the case. VICKIE: ARRON TOLD ME THAT UM HE AND MICHAEL AND CHRIS VISITED THEIR CLUB HOUSE EVERYDAY AND THEY ROAD THEIR BIKES AND THEY WERE SPYING ON 5 MEN AND AH I ASKED HIM WHO THEY WERE AND HE SAID I DONT KNOW MOM WHO THEY WERE I JUST YOU KNOW WE JUST SPYING ON EM I SAID WHY WOULD YOU BE SPYING ON 5 MEN YOU KNOW AND HE SAID WELL THEY WERE THERE EVERYDAY SO WE WOULD WATCH THEM. The boys, especially Chris and Michael, were skinny, little boys. well, Im going to take care of L. G. I find Narlenes comments very telling. What is equally disturbing, is that both Domini and Damien had solid alibis for that time period. Apparently, the medical examiner stated that the fine scratches on Stevies penis are similar to those from children who have sexually abused, i.e: given oral sex. No doubt. Its possible. Also, according to LGs aunt, Dixie, LGs mother, Linda, came to her work the next day asking where he had been the night before. Now what did LG have to hide? A month later three teens, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley were arrested for the murders of the three eight year old boys. You will see that this theory is supported by many statements, interviews, affidavits and even includes the alleged confessions of Buddy Lucas and LG Hollingsworth. Its been so long ago you know it may not be in the right order but I know he did come over around 5:30/6 oclock and we played the guitar for a while and then he said he had to go. Not until it was learned that Terry was using Jacoby as an alibi and that a hair that was found at the crime scene turned out to be consistent with Davids DNA. Further, there is some belief that part of the injury to Stevies penis was also a bitemark. The kick, along with the humiliation of being spied on, would have made Terry snap because he did not stand for any kind of disobedience. Occult shit is my best guess at this point. To me, this suggests that perhaps this was common knowledge around Terrys group of friends. According to statements, and as noted earlier, after Terry hit the first boy a few times, he stopped long enough to yell at him.
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