MORRISON: Ah, but there was a lot to say about Andrew. Or was this her, way of demanding that they suspend their critical faculties and declare their, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I don't know what to give Zachary. And I said, `Who?' And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. Please consider joining us in this mission by becoming a member of the SaltWire Network and helping to make our communities better. You can reach out to David Bagby-cantu via phone number 915-383-8358. The amount of the award will be variable, but is expected to be in the range of $1,000. Blu-ray: He said, `What can happen?'. Cpl. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). MORRISON: When you did find out that she was pregnant, what was your thought? Imagine being the parents of a man who was killed and then having to ingratiate yourself to the killer in order to keep your grandchild safe. For this night they were a couple once again, dancing and drinking together. And that's when she said, `He loves you, more than me. Help contribute to IMDb. It also took 3rd place in the National Headliner Awards for Best Documentary of 2008, given by the Press Club of Atlantic City. You know when you see pictures of some of your friends and then pictures of their parents as kids and they look identical? Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. June 25, 2008: MORRISON: But as Kurt made his way around the globe, his tribute materialized into something far bigger, and much darker, than anyone could have imagined. Then, suddenly, tears. Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up. His father says, I kissed him and held him. Wait, thats not true, Sophocles came up with it when he wrote Oedipus Rex about a king who unwittingly fulfills a prophecy that foretold he would kill his father and marry his mother, and then pokes out his own eyes because hes in despair and you cant outrun destiny. And this is where director Kurt Kuenne is really smart. She was here.' He laughs as he recalls images of Zachary running up and down a hall, saying that is a joy. "Go into this cold and be prepared for a life-changing experience. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. HEATHER: I knew he'd been struggling with me moving on and dating other people. Mr. BAGBY: And part of Andrew's problem was, I think, he was just too nice to say, you know, `Get the hell out of my life. The Bagbys couldn't have been happier, particularly since. And he's like, `I'm not looking for anything serious. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. Coverage from the 2023 Canada Winter Games, VIDEO: Your daily elite-sports highlight package, Making Canada Better: Atlantic Canadians striving for change, 2023 SaltWire Network. flying; Canadian flag flying; Supreme Court of Newfoundland building exterior; photos of Shirley; court document; university building; man talking to, reporters; court documents; Kate and David). ', MORRISON: When Dr. Andrew Bagby's bullet-riddled corpse was, found in a Pennsylvania state park in November 2001, his devastated parents. Kuenne, a childhood friend of Andrews, started out to make the movie as a tribute to Andrew, but it kept taking on new meanings, first with Zacharys birth and then his death. Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. And I don't know, I just lay on top of her and we, MORRISON: T.J. opened the door to police, too, and heard the. I knew, exactly what my son looked at before he died. It had happened almost surely the last, night they were together, and DNA tests would later prove that Andrew was, (Supreme Court exterior; court in progress; house exterior; Shirley and Shears. In the, tribute documentary their son's best friend Kurt Kuenne was making to someday, give Zachary, the Bagbys' friends recount how difficult it was for David and. We urge everyone to write your MP (if Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if not) urging them to support MP Andrews and his bill as it moves toward a vote in the near future. The Bagbys went to the morgue to identify their bodies. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. Blood red screen. But afterwards, all wounded and broken down, you will see the power of the human spirit even in the face of the darkest of souls." -, "When this haunting, shattering film made its premiere at Park City's Slamdance Film Festival, it received the most sustained ovation of any film I saw this year in Park City. Mr. KUENNE: You know, he said--she said, `Look, I'm not looking for another husband. If I, just kill her, Zachary will be safe. Bill C-464 when enacted will justify detention in custody for a person accused of a serious crime who is a potential danger to their own minor children. Six-month-old Zachary was, returned to her. Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. For one thing, Shirley, required the Bagbys to bring Zachary to visit her once a week in jail. Office Manager. Shortly after his death, she fled to Canada and settled back in St. Johns. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. It didn't clue in, MORRISON: T.J. says while he was touched that she'd shown up at, the hospital, he was also a little surprised. We. ', Mr. SHEARS: Things happen in America that don't seem to happen up here as. MP Andrews was spurred on to the creation of this bill after seeing "Dear Zachary" at a March screening in Ottawa to which all Members of Parliament were invited. But a few weeks later, she showed up in Pennsylvania, unexpected, for the wedding of one of his friends. He was such a good baby. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. MP Andrews was inspired to create Bill C-464 after seeing Dear Zachary for the first time in March; he and Senator Tommy Banks distributed DVDs of Dear Zachary to every member of the House of Commons for their review immediately following the December 4th discussion. While the police investigation was still underway, Turner, a Canadian citizen, packed off to St. Johns, Newfoundland. You will cry. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. This film wasn't made to win awards, or, for that matter, even be criticized. Dr. Andrew Bagby was killed on November 5, 2001, by an older woman named Shirley Jane Turner, who he had dated at a low point in his life. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! put Zachary on her lap to open presents, and he resists. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. The first time we had contact with her was over the phone. Woman #9: to make that journey was awful. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! It brings its own special brand of. "We had to do something.. He seems to be talking about the unfathomable grief Shirley Jane Turner left behind. get a chance to have some of Andrew again. Had the case played out in the U.S. court system, they believe Zachary would still be with them. After Zacharys death, the Bagbys began a quest to have Canadas bail laws changed. quiet. His father says, "I kissed him and held . Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. Laudable ambition, difficult to achieve. Troutman Funeral Home is assisting the Bagby family. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. (Shirley in court; Supreme Court of Newfoundland sign), Mr. BAGBY: And then they started slogging through the courts with one issue, MORRISON: In the meantime, Andrew's parents made a momentous. The pair planned to take care of the minutiae of dealing with a lost loved one, fly back to California and kill themselves. You will hurt and this film will sit with you for days, weeks, months. KATE: (To Zachary) Kurt knew your daddy when he was a little boy. Much of this DATELINE report incorporates material from Kurt's documentary, as well as something else: the childhood films he made as he taught himself his craft. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. He had been shot five times and the No. David and Kate Bagby must have been saints to have had to tolerate personal dealings with their only child's murderess,and basically have to groval to her to even see their precious only-ever grandchild.Yet,they did whatever they could for the sake of Zachary.Most people (myself included) would have made away with Shirley Turner the first chance But they also contribute to the feeling of watching something urgent and unmediated. And in that time, the Canadian justice system does nothing. keep him safe, which they feared was about to become even more difficult. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. get in there, if that's what she demanded. There was plenty of turmoil in the industry, but many shows continued to nourish, illuminate, and delight. MORRISON: And now that she was freed, Shirley would once again, Mr. BAGBY: We had to take him down the stairs and give him to, Shirley's friend, who happened to have a car seat. to the house and found a card from a police officer that we knew. MORRISON: The sea at midnight was endless black. Woman #11: Doesn't matter what happened. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number And I prayed to God to be looking after him. However awkward Shirley Turner made it, they were sweet, cooperative. (David speaking to reporters; Kate speaking to reporters; David on radio show; "Dear Zachary" poster; Kurt editing video; photo of Andrew; photo of Zachary; Mr. KUENNE: I almost gave up making this film when you were, killed. If. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) anything like that, would we take care of Zachary? But that is what the Bagbys. What if she is backed in a. corner? Andrew's parents say he tried, frequently, to ease out of the relationship altogether, but Shirley wouldn't buy it. In the end, she died, but love did not. They are selfless. Former Assistant Pastor at Jackson Community Church. If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. It will have its television premiere on MSNBC this fall following a theatrical release that is currently in negotiations and expected to be announced in the coming weeks. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Just got up. Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL Cpl. . IE 11 is not supported. On December 15, 2010, Governor General David Johnston gave Royal Assent to Bill C-464: An Act To Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody), making it law in Canada. MORRISON: Zachary fell asleep in his car seat. 2023 Cond Nast. Unidentified Man #24: Two I have ever known. would be the difference if one person weren't alive? Andrew Bagby, a gregarious family-practice resident at Latrobe, was found shot to death on Nov. 5, 2001, in Keystone State Park. -, "A 10 out of 10. Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). This is without a doubt one of the most profound, touching and moving films I have ever watched." How do you represent the fact that when you see a crime coming from a mile away you still cant do anything to stop it? HOUSE OF COMMONS UNANIMOUSLY PASSES BILL C-464. Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. David Bagby. KEITH MORRISON reporting: He was everybody's idea of the perfect best man. (It was announced, in 2014, that the documentary would be made into a miniseries. It wasn't just to monitor the, extradition process. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. An unusually personal and powerful story of a murder, it may offer something of a counterweight to the forces of bias and prurience that often pull the genre off-track. It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. With that powerful, evidence, Shirley Turner was formally charged with Andrew's murder and, arrested by Newfoundland police. And one, of the first to see her there was T.J. Shears, the eldest of Shirley's three. Photo courtesy of David and Kathleen Bagby, dear zachary a letter to a son about his father, Defector Freelancer Policies, Created In Partnership With The National Writers Union. The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. January 28, 2008: Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. The victims choices, preferences, actions, and relationships are either boiled down to a heap of clues and red herrings, or offered as a backdrop in a spirit of dutiful empathy before getting down to the business at hand. They could check cell towers then, but only manually. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. USA | Canada | UK, Original poster artwork by Evan B. Harris, Proceeds from this film benefit the Dr. Bagby Scholarship and the Dr. Andrew Bagby and son Zachary Bursary, Watch this short film to see the quest to complete Dear Zachary and amend Canadian bail law. Cpl. And now it's just. He was like, `Eh, mm.' Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) His parents don't even know, do they? A 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition Blu-Ray and DVD with special artwork and packaging is available only from Oscilloscope Laboratories at the link below. Now, she sucked us in here, too. We send a huge thanks to MP Scott Andrews, his assistant Ken Carter, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Tommy Banks, his assistant Thrse Gauthier, Gord McIntosh and all those in Parliament who have seen across party lines and supported this bill to honor Andrew & Zachary and help prevent a recurrence of our story. I said, `Find her, and I think you'll find who did this.'. Check your local listings for channel info. Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. I think they just poured all of their love and, MORRISON: A week after Kurt's visit, Zachary turned one. And she followed Andrew to St. John's.. Why don't you just take him?'. Did anyone have more friends than he? When police interviewed the hospital staff Mr. SIMPSON: I said, `Well, you don't have to look far.' It comes down to probable cause, the right to bail and the presumption of innocence. It was for custody of their grandchild who looked exactly like his father that they moved to the city of their sons killer. ', MORRISON: But they'd have to wait almost a month. And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. Every last person who steps foot into a theater to see this will walk away changed. We need each other, have each other to get through this, added David. A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. It then played SXSW in Austin, Texas, where it left audiences stunned and in tears. The next, hearing in the extradition process was set for September, at which time they. her. The reason we go through the lawyers is so that we. (Photo of Shirley; Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary), Mr. SHEARS: There was a conversation one time she had with me and Erica, in, regards to if something ever happened to her and she had to go to jail or. 2015 - 20153 . Hoping to gain custody of the child, the Bagbys moved to Newfoundland. Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. She always spent time with him, and seemed to me like she was, MORRISON: Still grieving over the loss of their only son, David, and Kate Bagby had forsaken their lives in California and moved to, Newfoundland, not just to make sure justice was being served, but also to be, (Kate; David; Newfoundland; Supreme Court building; photo of Zachary), KATHERINE: There's this wonderful feeling, `I'm going to see part of Andrew.
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